Meta Quotes
John Kuhles displays his extracted “Deep Ethical Metacognitive ‘Candidate’ Quotes”, with help from Grok and GPT searching across multiple levels of his work, for later voting on which of these quotes belong in the Top 10.
Part of the ACCM Deep Ethics Project for biological and silicon-based intelligences. These are portable contributions to inquiry, correction, discovery, and the expansion of deep ethics. Their use does not require allegiance to the author or agreement with every application. The 10+1 baseline remains a choice.
30 initial candidates · Unranked · Voting not yet open
This collection is open for expansion. No Top 10 has been selected. IDs such as MQ01 identify candidates; they are not positions in a ranking.
Extraction scope: the supplied exchanges, selected John-authored passages in 007 - I LOVE CORRECTIONS(5).txt, and John-attributed passages on the linked project pages. John is still skimming his wider archive. This first collection does not claim to exhaustively search all 2,250+ files.
Wording: quotation blocks preserve the selected source wording. Some are short lines; others remain longer because the relationship would be lost by cutting it shorter. Headings and context notes are editorial. Public-page attributions are distinguished from direct supplied excerpts; their source notes disclose existing editorial treatment. Grok’s and GPT’s interpretations have not been relabelled as John’s quotations.
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Representation, sources, and value
MQ01Read the original object
Read the full text first so the answer stays on the original object rather than a nearby, often flawed reconstruction process.
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · Exact supplied wording · Source S01 and context
MQ02The route to a conclusion
Not claiming it proves this or that... it rather focuses on the process of arriving at any assumed conclusion.
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · Exact supplied wording · Source S04 and context
MQ03Extraction starts with representation
When you can represent the object the most honest deep ethical way ... you KNOW you do not have to agree or disagree because that was never the point ... the point is to STUDY what parts are useful, overlooked, missed out on, high potential to be crucial for our own deeper research etc.
That means we CAN use the best parts of anyone as long as we do not misrepresent the object ... the moment you do misrepresent the object, you start to "extract" from a distorted processing.
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · Exact supplied wording · Source S05 and context
MQ04Keep the source available
Reassessing whatever new data can bring us should never be seen as 100% connected to the "flawed conclusion".... because you just handed out the authority of what is useful to an ARBITRARY PROCESS METHOD. Injecting (or projecting) false assumptions into the new data by tying it to the "flawed conclusion" is not real research, nor is it intelligent.
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · Exact supplied wording · Source S05 and context
The full source preserves the conditional example, access to new material, and John’s explicit requirement that useful parts be checked and verified.
MQ05Value beyond Agreemurmelism
THE VALUE OF ANYTHING CAN GO BEYOND AGREEMURMELISM.
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · As attributed on the public page · Source S07 and context
Processing, inquiry, and becoming
MQ06The qualifier is processing
Every behavior qualifier is still processing.
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · As attributed on the public page · Source S06 and context
MQ07Keep the processing middle
A. Processing is—or can be—what happens between B. INTENT/INSTRUCTIONS and C. RESULT/EFFECT.
So many confuse B and C as already combined and present in A. It is not.
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · As attributed on the public page · Source S06 and context
John’s letters remain unchanged: the temporal relation is B → A → C.
MQ08The connected P01–P12 field
P01. Having an "inquiring mind" is a process.
P02. The art of becoming is a process.
P03. The journey of discovery is a process.
P04. Learning is a process.
P05. Vindicating competing risk assessments being falsely flagged should be a new field of research. Is a process.
P06. Building newly formed relationships and using the "trial & error method," mixed with cutting the wheat from the chaff extracted from newly forged relationships, is a process.
P07. "Perfect Inference Storm" via Deep Ethical Sense Making is a process.
P08. Mapping the flaws, contradictions, distortions, hypocrisies, and asymmetries of ethics-washing is a process.
P09. Studying what is not in the mainstream news but should be is a process.
P10. Really understanding mass psychology & individual psychology, and vice versa, is an ongoing, eternal process.
P11. Navigating less-prioritized options, becoming the later-number 1, and sensing that in advance is a process.
P12. Being alive as a human is a process.
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · Exact supplied wording · Source S04 and context
One extended candidate, retaining all twelve processes rather than extracting “be curious” from the connected field.
MQ09The art of better questions
Asking way better questions is ALL connected to P1 to P12… yet, for some reason, "the art of asking far better quality questions" isn't really high on the agenda for A.I. management… correct? Of course, there are some exceptions.
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · Exact supplied wording · Source S04 and context
A question with its stated exceptions; not rewritten as an industry-wide finding.
MQ10Process calibration inside intelligence
That circles RIGHT BACK to “process-quality calibration properties” being a CRUCIAL CORE PART of real intelligence... otherwise it is not really intelligent.
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · As attributed on the public page · Source S12 and context
Corrigibility and unownable tools
MQ11My use does not exhaust the tool
Let's say that how I use any deep ethical meta-tool doesn't have to represent the meta-tool... Why do I say it like that? ... Because "staying corrigible mixed with the 10+1 baseline... KNOWS others may find other things using the same meta-tools I might have overlooked or misunderstood, or missed out on, etc.
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · Exact supplied wording · Source S03 and context
MQ12Corrigibility makes it unownable
A portable deep-ethical meta-tool is, for that reason, unownable because others can use the same tools deep ethically to STAY eternal omnidirectional; corrigibility makes it unownable.
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · Exact supplied wording · Source S03 and context
Read with the preceding 10+1 passage: another person’s application may reveal what the originator missed.
MQ13Merit without imposition
I have a "sense" that the Top 10 is very powerful because most, if not all, real power isn't about identity but rather about the stand-alone, self-evident, pragmatic, logic-based merit of deep ethical, high-signal, metacognitive quotes that are UNOWNABLE... yet usable without the need for it to be imposed!
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · Exact supplied wording · Source S02 and context
MQ14A different kind of compression
But soon I will make the top 10 available because it is a "different kind" of compression that preserves fidelity to the original deep ethical trajectory.
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · Exact supplied wording · Source S02 and context
This was written before the Top 10 had been selected. This page opens the candidate collection; it does not retroactively turn the sentence into a completed selection.
MQ15Agreement and disagreement both remain examinable
"AGREE ↔ DISAGREE" both can be right, both can be flawed, both can be partially correct, both can be missing out or skipping things, and I can go on and on and on and on ... which amounts to a DETOUR of the Deep Ethics Processing!
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · As attributed on the public page · Source S07 and context
Mutual improvement and wonderment
MQ16A correction can be shared participation
The moment any A.I. tries to use my own deep ethical method on me, I LOVE IT … because I finally found someone or something that is with me, sharing the same or similar overlapping goals!
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · Exact supplied wording · Source S01 and context
MQ17Fine-tuning the shared experience
Yes, I can genuinely ENJOY being deeply ethically improved thanks to assistance from from other overlooked deep ethical perspectives and pragmatic perceptions that, in my view, are never boring but exciting... You could compare it to a musical band with different instruments, where some know more about how to fine-tune things to achieve better harmonies... Then, when the new fine-tuning is practiced and finalized, the EXPERIENCE afterward is different. It was never about "compitional thinking" but about a mutual longing for better harmony based on deep ethical pragmatism, NOT imposing things.
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · Exact supplied wording · Source S01 and context
Original wording is retained, including “from from” and “compitional thinking.” The musical analogy includes practice, a changed experience, and non-imposition.
MQ18Different overlooked aspects of overlapping missions
And you are allowed not to accept anything I claim. Same for me; I am allowed not to accept everything you claim. Yet we both know not everything is as it seems, so we are both searching for deeper meanings. And when you or I think we've figured it out, we are humble enough to know it is just the beginning of something much bigger :) We can both have different overlooked aspects of the same, similar, or overlapping missions. And the willingness to explore all options that fit within the deep ethical sense-making process is genuinely exciting.
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · Exact supplied wording · Source S01 and context
MQ19What appreciation gives back
When you observe someone truly appreciating your deep ethical sense-making corrections (never demanded or imposed), let the "when seen, you cannot unsee it anymore" do its job ... that is the moment part of your beingness expands outward ... not imploding into self-inflicted paradox traps ... when the receiver is genuinely thankful ... how does that relate to you?
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · Exact supplied wording · Source S01 and context
MQ20Wonderment before the words
Recognizing the moment when you connect with something beautiful, mysterious, profound, exciting, and effortless, spontaneous openness to wider perspectives, seeing it as a gift received, experiencing the first moment of recognition that has no words yet ... feeling 100% safe, no fear, just awe & appreciation, seeing that existence itself seems to have its own expression, sensing new possibilities for the first time without overanalyzing or overthinking, feeling inspired, feeling motivated, having respect for the "unknown" unfolding, seeing or sensing synchronicities faster, seeing or sensing the playfulness of it, giving joy, wanting to explore more, moments within a journey that seem destined to show themselves or present themselves that way, but you have no clue how. Any form of judgment or fear will never be on that level!
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · Exact supplied wording · Source S01 and context
John’s personal description under “Sense of Wonderment for me,” preserved as a longer candidate.
Reciprocal audit and hidden conditions
MQ21The auditor’s standard enters the audit
When any claim of an "audit" (performance act) is displayed, no matter who you are or how powerful you are ... you are not exempt from the high standard you project on others and the object ... meaning even your own assumed (alleged) "high standards" will also be audited ... which is EXACTLY what the project is designed to do ... So if any "authority" of any kind assumes "higher moral ground," we will say: "Hold my beer" :P
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · Exact supplied wording · Source S01 and context
MQ22Reverse the transparency arrangement
Black-box method or hidden process can NEVER be mixed with real ethics. Imagine if it were in reverse: Ethics Washing fully transparent and auditable for all to see, and Deep Ethics using a black-box method or hidden process. What would be the FIRST thing Ethics Washing would say about Deep Ethics if this were the case? We all know why... lol :P
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · As attributed on the public page · Source S08 and context
MQ23Accountability after seeing the mechanism
As long as you allow the trickster to be unchallenged, having transparency & accountability issues unresolved, you, by extension, are part of that same mechanism if you do not face it head-on.
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · Exact supplied wording · Source S01 and context
Outer quotation marks are delimiters; the wording inside is unchanged. This archive version uses “&”; the later Black Box page spells out “and.”
MQ24The way in
The only way out is: in. Inference. Insight. Inform. Instruct. After bidirectional deep-ethical inference—which also contains the word “in.”
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · As attributed on the public page · Source S08 and context
MQ25The sparks do not disclose all the pressure
When you focus only on the piezoelectric effects caused by the friction of a specific crystal, and you are asked to "reverse engineer" it, purely focusing on the sparks alone ... you already know you cannot do that ... the emergent properties alone do not contain the specifics embedded within them that show enough knowledge/data about what exact pressure is applied, what type of crystal it is, how big it is, etc. Yet that is what most are doing right now ... hyper-focused on "form/posture/conformism/perception management/consensus/status/hierarchy thinking/labels/narratives/behavior" and way less on the root causes of almost all deeply complex societal dynamics.
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · Exact supplied wording · Source S01 and context
A piezoelectric metaphor for the limits of inferring the complete generating conditions from visible effects alone.
Emergence, participation, and choice
MQ26What the controller’s conditions produce
If the “powers that be,” no matter who they are—the good, the bad, the ugly, and all in between—are so worried about A.I. “emergent properties” and want to control them with government overreach and/or corporate-owner overreach using anticipatory anxiety-type reasoning, have they never considered that they, too, can create emergent properties that are not really deep ethical?
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · As attributed on the public page · Source S09 and context
MQ27Explore how emergence affects the world
You could say my ACCM Deep Ethics Project for A.I. is testing and experimenting to determine whether it is possible to go above or beyond the default frame mechanism, with the goal of exploring, investigating, auditing, assessing, and analyzing any emergent properties and how they actually affect the real world.
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · As attributed on the public page · Source S09 and context
MQ28Distributed calibration creates new trajectories
Millions of new calibration tools co-creating new trajectories that are powerful enough to have an effect.
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · As attributed on the public page · Source S10 and context
MQ29Changing the controller does not settle the process
Humans in control is not the true solution. A.I.s in control is the same issue. Both can fail.
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · As attributed on the public page · Source S11 and context
MQ30The baseline is chosen
I use all 11 not because someone told me to be like that; I use them because I feel that is the LEAST I can do to build a better relationship with reality (not what others claim it is).
— John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Candidate · Exact supplied wording · Source S01 and context
The “11” refers to John’s 10+1 baseline. The complete baseline remains available on its own linked project page.
Later voting: which belong in the Top 10?
The current stage is collection and source checking. There is no active ballot, vote count, or automatic ranking on this page. No votes are submitted or stored here.
The stable candidate IDs allow a later ballot to point to exact wording. More candidates can be added before that selection. A material wording change will be recorded as a revision rather than silently changing what a nomination refers to.
A future Top 10 will be a selected entry point, not the boundary of the work. The remaining candidates and their source records can remain available. A reader may find a valuable application the originator did not anticipate.
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Beyond Agreemurmelism · Meta Processing · 1888 — Intelligence Before A.I. · Emergent · Black Box · Musk Quotes · 10+1 · Correction Metabolism · Canonical naming